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Game 163 Open Thread
2007-10-01 13:36
by Mark T.R. Donohue

I'm going to the game tonight live and in person, so before I leave I'm posting so that interested parties may carry on some stimulating discussion during tonight's Rockies-Padres deathmatch. Supporters of any and all MLB clubs are welcome, but no being mean.

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Comments (701)
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2007-10-01 13:43:26
1.   Bob Timmermann
I believe we are allowed to make fun of Willy Taveras and Jeff Cirillo though aren't we?
2007-10-01 13:45:43
2.   Mark T.R. Donohue
1 Also Jeff Kent, Peter Angelos, Bill Wirtz (nope, it's not too soon) and Paul O'Neill.
2007-10-01 13:48:19
3.   Sam DC
Where does Mike Hampton fit into all this?
2007-10-01 13:51:13
4.   Linkmeister
Yeah, and what about Denny Neagle?
2007-10-01 13:54:00
5.   kirk gibson
I wish the Rockies the best of luck tonight...I quietly started pulling for them after they swept the Dodgers in the doubleheader (and series) a couple weeks back--at that point I knew L.A. was dead in the water and I thought it would be pretty neat to see the Rockies continue winning and get the wildcard berth. And besides, do we really want to see another first round playoff loss by the padres?
2007-10-01 14:15:29
6.   RIYank
Funny, I started rooting against the Rockies after that nasty series against the Yankees. (Nasty only in the results, I mean. For the Yankees.)
But I've come around. Good story, interesting team... and of course, Toaster Camaraderie. Go Rocks!
2007-10-01 14:17:53
7.   standuptriple
I used to live in SD. Great baseball fans down there. But there's something about this Rockies team that draws my interest. Plus, playoff game(s) in COL are full of potential.
2007-10-01 14:19:03
8.   tj5825
Sounds like LoDo is starting to get excited this afternoon (looking on the RM News website)...makes me miss my hometown (again!).

GO ROX!!!

2007-10-01 14:37:26
9.   LoveDemAs
As a fan of the underdog, I'm totally rooting for the Rockies in this game (having previously had no particular allegiances to either team). Is the game going to be on any national TV outlet? Extra Innings doesn't seem to be carrying the game (f***ers).
2007-10-01 14:38:21
10.   Sam DC
TBS.
2007-10-01 14:49:58
11.   tj5825
I'm hoping that since I set my direct tv Tivo before I left for work it will record OK (I have a late meeting). The game wasn't in the guide so I just set it on TBS and selected the shows they had scheduled starting at 4:30 (pacific time). That meeting's going to suck. lol
2007-10-01 15:03:49
12.   underdog
9 Thanks! I mean, me too.
2007-10-01 15:10:41
13.   bhsportsguy
I sent this to Bob T. earlier today but of course, individual stats mean nothing but today's game does count for the regular season so for those who care, Matt Holliday can go 0-4 today and he will still win the batting title over Chipper Jones.

If he gets a hit, then no problem at all.

I believe if Jake Peavy strikes out 5 or more, he will lead the majors in strike outs.

And he is going for win number 20, which I think would be the first NL pitcher to reach that mark in two years.

2007-10-01 15:30:35
14.   Shaun P
I think it'd be cool to see the Rockies get in. There's no reason they couldn't make it all the way, and wouldn't that be a story?
2007-10-01 15:40:27
15.   Bob Timmermann
In 2005, 3 pitchers in the NL won 20 games: Willis, Carpenter, and Oswalt.

Only 2 Padre pitchers have had 20-win seasons: Randy Jones, 20 in 1975 and 22 in 1976, and Gaylord Perry won 21 in 1978.

Peavy and Maddux are the only pitchers on the Padres with 10+ wins. Francis and Fogg are the only pitchers with 10+ wins on the Rockies.

The Washington Nationals had no pitcher win 10 games nor a pitcher lose 10 this season! That had never happened before. Jon Rauch led with 8 wins and Matt Chico led with 9 losses.

2007-10-01 15:41:31
16.   MC Safety
Josh " The Dragon Slayer " Fogg representing all hope for Rocks fans around the world.
2007-10-01 15:41:44
17.   Bluebleeder87
I was just checking & Peavy is pitching on normal rest. I don't know but I always feel he expands a lot of energy with his motion, the Rox better pray he's a little fatigued during this long season or else it's "wait till next year" time for them as well. This game definitely has an underdog feeling to it which will make me a Rox fan tonight.
2007-10-01 15:43:33
18.   Bob Timmermann
Padres:
B. Giles RF
Hairston LF
Kouzmanoff 3B
Gonzalez 1B
Greene SS
Bard C
Blum 2B
Clark CF
Peavy P

Rockies:
Matsui 2B
Tulowitzki SS
Holliday LF
Helton 1B
Atkins 3B
Hawpe RF
Spilborghs CF
Torrealba C
Fogg P

2007-10-01 15:54:51
19.   xaphor
The Rockies have a nice looking lineup. It reminds me of the Cardinals in '04, but with younger and lesser known kids. Here's hoping they get to Peavy.
2007-10-01 15:58:43
20.   Xeifrank
The DodgerSims Simulator gives the Rockies a 50.65% win expectancy, while the Las Vegas Hilton gives them only 42.55%. The simulator plays 2000 games pitting the same two teams with the same lineups.
Good luck!
vr, Xei
2007-10-01 16:09:02
21.   BlueMamma
Does anyone know if there's a radio station in the LA area that will be carrying this game?
2007-10-01 16:14:22
22.   LogikReader
It will be on ESPN radio, so my guess is, 710 AM for the Greater LA area.
2007-10-01 16:18:25
23.   Bluebleeder87
20

So it's basically a toss up I guess. I don't know man, but when Peavy is on (extra adrenaline tonight one would imagine) he can absolutely be SICK hopefully there 1st base coach goes all Mariano Duncan on Peavy...

2007-10-01 16:23:11
24.   gpellamjr
If Bad Altitude is now taking baseless predictions, I will assert that the Rockies will win tonight 9-2.

It just feels so right.

2007-10-01 16:30:04
25.   Xeifrank
23. Great pitching against great hitting, mediocre pitching against mediocre hitting. I think the rule of thumb is that mediocre pitching will always beat mediocre hitting.
Or something totally different than that. :)
Enjoy the game.
vr, Xei
2007-10-01 16:32:52
26.   Bob Timmermann
I just hope that nobody gave Josh Fogg a copy of "The Denny Galehouse Story" to read.
2007-10-01 16:33:01
27.   El Lay Dave
That Padres lineup would look a lot better with Mike Cameron and Milton Bradley in it - oh, wait.

It is hard to believe that the four NL playoff managers will be Charlie Manuel, Bob Melvin, Lou Pinella and, possibly, Clint Hurdle.

2007-10-01 16:33:40
28.   mbtn01
I adopted the Rockies as my backup team this year out of guilt for how poorly my fellow Met fans treated Kaz Matsui and out of admiration for Troy Tulowitzski's arm. Go Rockies!
2007-10-01 16:35:44
29.   underdog
I like the Rockies' line-up and am rooting for them, but with Peavy pitching I'm going to predict, against my will, a 4-2 final for Padres.

Hope I'm wrong!

2007-10-01 16:36:44
30.   Bob Timmermann
All time record
Colorado 117
San Diego 113
2007-10-01 16:40:38
31.   Bob Timmermann
Kouzmanoff had an OPS of 1.031 in September.
2007-10-01 16:44:09
32.   MC Safety
Fogg with 2 k's!
2007-10-01 16:44:39
33.   yankee23
32 And did you see the grin on his face? Priceless.
2007-10-01 16:46:08
34.   underdog
Actually the Rockies have so much more momentum than the Pads, I should just pick the team with momentum. Okay, 4-2 Rockies instead.
2007-10-01 16:46:59
35.   Bluebleeder87
28

He's got a good one but he also MAXIMIZES (maximum effort I guess) his throws all the time I wouldn't suggest that if I were his coach or dad...

2007-10-01 16:47:52
36.   yankee23
I'll confess that I was hoping to see Taveras as a pinch-runner, but I don't think he's activated...
2007-10-01 16:49:17
37.   D4P
Doubling on a groundball to centerfield is not easy.
2007-10-01 16:49:45
38.   Mattpat11
Nice start.
2007-10-01 16:50:09
39.   Bob Timmermann
37
Except in Denver.

Or when Juan Pierre plays center.

2007-10-01 16:53:00
40.   D4P
Well, I'll be happy for the Rockies if they win. I felt for most of the year that they were underachieving, and it was nice to see them finally put it together.
2007-10-01 16:53:43
41.   D4P
39
Or when Juan Pierre plays center in Denver, which will hopefully happen more than 81 times next year.
2007-10-01 16:54:29
42.   Bluebleeder87
Balsley's last name is bagging for jokes... (JoeyP were are though)
2007-10-01 16:55:08
43.   Bob Timmermann
41
The Rockies used to have BOTH Juan Pierre AND Tom Goodwin in the outfield.

Scary thought.

2007-10-01 16:55:09
44.   Bluebleeder87
Wow, I will never questin XeiFranks machine EVER again...
2007-10-01 16:56:55
45.   Bluebleeder87
43

Davey Johnson would have had a stroke if he were the Denver skipper.

2007-10-01 16:57:43
46.   underdog
Rockies are already halfway toward my flip-flopped predicted score!
2007-10-01 16:58:08
47.   D4P
I just discovered that the game is on TV. My TV listings showed "Everybody Loves Raymond".
2007-10-01 16:59:02
48.   Mattpat11
Somehow I doubt 2-0 holds up in this ballpark.
2007-10-01 17:00:48
49.   vockins
I called my friend in Colorado to tell him the score.

He's running out to buy a TV now.

2007-10-01 17:03:00
50.   xaphor
Tell him to pick up some soap and a razor when he's out. :)
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2007-10-01 17:03:20
51.   Ken Arneson
Which one of these pitchers is the Cy Young candidate?
2007-10-01 17:03:49
52.   El Lay Dave
50 ... for his girlfiend.
2007-10-01 17:04:15
53.   D4P
Which one of these pitchers is the Cy Young candidate?

The one with the (really bad) offense.

2007-10-01 17:04:16
54.   Bob Timmermann
It's the battle of eight-letter in total guys who are named Josh!
2007-10-01 17:05:27
55.   Mattpat11
51 Candidate?

Who the hell is competing with him?

2007-10-01 17:06:09
56.   Bluebleeder87
uuuhh, great hit by Josh Bard (nice little battle there also with the pitcher)
2007-10-01 17:06:10
57.   El Lay Dave
54 Fair is foul, and foul is fair: hover through the Fogg and thin air.
2007-10-01 17:06:45
58.   Bob Timmermann
Beware the World Series Hero.
2007-10-01 17:06:56
59.   Bob Timmermann
Or maybe not.
2007-10-01 17:08:55
60.   Bluebleeder87
you know it's not that far fetched that Josh Fogg can throw a shut out against the Pads knowing there poor offense...
2007-10-01 17:10:39
61.   Bob Timmermann
The Padres scored more runs per game this year than Arizona.
2007-10-01 17:11:35
62.   Mattpat11
Well, I guess this is sort of the playoffs. We should have expected a Peavy choke.
2007-10-01 17:12:06
63.   Bluebleeder87
Mark T.R Donohue is probably high 5ing a buddy right about know...
2007-10-01 17:12:29
64.   regfairfield
Yorvit!
2007-10-01 17:12:44
65.   underdog
If Yorvit Torrealba can homer off of Peavy, this is definitely the Rockies' run.
2007-10-01 17:14:46
66.   underdog
55 Brandon Webb is probably the only other guy near him. Penny was another candidate but he had some bad starts the final month.
2007-10-01 17:15:06
67.   Bluebleeder87
Jake Peavy's pitches seem to be up early in the game, Torrealba's tater was hung by Peavy thats for sure.
2007-10-01 17:16:35
68.   Bluebleeder87
66

with any luck Brad Penny could have won at least 1 or 2 more games but like you said, he ran a little out of steam in the end.

2007-10-01 17:23:05
69.   Mattpat11
Penny ran out of steam a lot later than he usually does.
2007-10-01 17:24:06
70.   underdog
This one could quickly get competitive again in a matter of moments...
2007-10-01 17:24:17
71.   D4P
Woah. I just came back to the game to see the grand slam. Ouch.
2007-10-01 17:24:31
72.   Bluebleeder87
4-3 Pads on a Gonzalez Granny, not good.
2007-10-01 17:25:41
73.   Humma Kavula
Do not go gentle into that good night;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
2007-10-01 17:26:04
74.   regfairfield
Oh yeah, Josh Fogg is pitching.
2007-10-01 17:26:29
75.   trainwreck
71
Aren't you happy?
2007-10-01 17:26:52
76.   Ken Arneson
Josh Fogg is exactly who we thought he was!
2007-10-01 17:29:39
77.   underdog
As I was saying...
2007-10-01 17:32:34
78.   Humma Kavula
Thanks to Bob, we know that the record for total runs scored in a tiebreaker game is 15. Second game of the 1962 tiebreaker.

With 8 runs in 2 and a half innings, that has a chance to fall.

2007-10-01 17:33:30
79.   Bob Timmermann
Game 2 of the 1962 tiebreaker also was the longest 9-inning game in major league history for quite a while.

And it was a day game in L.A. And it was reportedly very hot and very smoggy.

2007-10-01 17:34:07
80.   Bluebleeder87
Judging from Jake Peavys 1st inning performance, it's still a toes up no?
2007-10-01 17:34:48
81.   D4P
Aren't you happy?

I'm conflicted. I was rooting for the Padres because of Depo, but I wasn't really rooting for them over the Rockies. I was rooting for them over the NL East teams.

2007-10-01 17:35:12
82.   Bob Timmermann
Toes up!
2007-10-01 17:36:18
83.   Bob Timmermann
The winner of this game decides if the NL Wild Card Division will be called the Tony Gwynn or the Todd Helton.

Helton helps his own cause.

The NL West is now the Andy Tracy Division.

Slim pickings for players who spent their entire career with Arizona.

2007-10-01 17:36:31
84.   Bob Timmermann
Excuse me, Chad Tracy Division.
2007-10-01 17:38:14
85.   underdog
80 Apparently, yep.
2007-10-01 17:39:09
86.   El Lay Dave
Did they turn down the humidor a little bit?
2007-10-01 17:39:20
87.   underdog
It's turn back the clock (pre-humidor) night at Coors Field, apparently, too.
2007-10-01 17:39:38
88.   underdog
D'oh! 10 seconds too late.
2007-10-01 17:42:19
89.   El Lay Dave
Was Morales up in the pen? He can be long relief on three-days rest, eh?
2007-10-01 17:42:47
90.   cult of basebaal
if the friars were at full strength, i'd be pulling for them ... but as i figure they're no match for anybody they play at this point (let alone the phightin' phils), i'm pulling for rockies ... long live baseball at altitude!
2007-10-01 17:47:10
91.   D4P
90
Good point. Rockies-Phillies should be much more exciting than Padres-Phillies.
2007-10-01 17:48:32
92.   MollyKnight
90-I'd be pulling for the Friars if they weren't nicknamed the Friars.
2007-10-01 17:51:47
93.   Sam DC
Pretty funny.
2007-10-01 17:52:43
94.   cult of basebaal
92 yes, but would you root for them if they were nicknamed "The Fryers"???

mmm, the fryers ...

2007-10-01 17:53:02
95.   Bluebleeder87
87

I'm nostalgic so I could of dig it...

2007-10-01 17:53:20
96.   confucius
Fogg looked good in the fourth but I'd be going to the 'pen for the fifth if I were the manager.
2007-10-01 17:54:09
97.   Bluebleeder87
Looks like Gonzalez has Josh Foggs #...
2007-10-01 17:57:57
98.   D4P
The tough thing about games like this is that one team has to lose.
2007-10-01 17:58:52
99.   vockins
Spicoli pops out to shallow right.
2007-10-01 18:03:31
100.   Eric Stephen
Gonzalez's grand slam put him at exactly 30 HR & 100 RBI. He already had 100 runs. Adrian became only the 4th Padre to have 30/100/100 in a season:

Player, Year (HR/R/RBI)
Caminiti, 1996 (40/109/130)
Vaughn, 1998 (50/112/119)
Klesko, 2001 (30/105/113)
Gonzalez, 2007 (30/101/100 so far)

These 4 players are also the only Padres in history to have 100 runs & RBI (no HR threshold).

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2007-10-01 18:03:52
101.   El Lay Dave
If you're going to pull Fogg because the first guy reaches, why let him bat with one out in the previous 1/2 inning?
2007-10-01 18:05:14
102.   Mattpat11
Who's announcing? There's a lot of dead air.
2007-10-01 18:07:01
103.   Eric Stephen
That was a nice effort by Clark. I actually liked when the Dodgers acquired him; I thought he would be a nice 4th OF for them, but it didn't work out.
2007-10-01 18:07:05
104.   cult of basebaal
that M-V-P chant was awesome ... way to hit, holly!
2007-10-01 18:07:57
105.   Eric Stephen
101 That decision was a Little curious.
2007-10-01 18:09:45
106.   MC Safety
I hated Greg Vaughn.
2007-10-01 18:10:56
107.   mehmattski
According to Gameday, strike three was about a foot outside.
2007-10-01 18:13:05
108.   Bluebleeder87
100

that's pretty crazy, I though this was a playoff game!?

2007-10-01 18:13:59
109.   underdog
This is a good game. Too bad it took me this long to realize I could watch it via MLBTV here at work.
2007-10-01 18:14:16
110.   trainwreck
I had no idea TBS showed "The Office."
2007-10-01 18:15:51
111.   cult of basebaal
102 and that's a bad thing??? i'd go for a feed that was just stadium and crowd noise, no announcers at all ...
2007-10-01 18:16:56
112.   MC Safety
110-I had no idea they showed Family Guy back to back either.
2007-10-01 18:17:01
113.   Humma Kavula
108 Nope, tiebreakers are regular season games.
2007-10-01 18:17:06
114.   coachjpark
Is this a Grady-like ploy to get Peavy 20 wins at the expense of possibly getting into the playoffs????
2007-10-01 18:17:10
115.   Eric Stephen
108 This is game 163 of the regular season. Good luck to anyone breaking Maury Wills' record of 165 games played in 1962.

106 I like Vaughn, if only because I drafted him in my fantasy baseball league that year for $1, and before the pick I announced "this is the pick of the draft."

2007-10-01 18:19:10
116.   Bob Timmermann
The announcers are Don Orsillo and Joe Simpson.

I wonder what Orsillo knows about the NL West. I'm guessing very little.

2007-10-01 18:19:24
117.   coachjpark
Bad move on catching the ball. Why not let the ball drop and possibly turn two or at least force Peavy to be the runner there should it somehow take a weird hop back into fair territory?
2007-10-01 18:19:33
118.   trainwreck
I wish this game would have counted towards fantasy baseball.
2007-10-01 18:19:34
119.   D4P
Good luck to anyone breaking Maury Wills' record of 165 games played in 1962

"Ooh! Ooh! Let me try! Ooh!"

http://tinyurl.com/2rctfc

2007-10-01 18:19:46
120.   Bluebleeder87
110

That's syndication territory no? (nation wide channel etc..) but I'm not a t.v. noeth...

2007-10-01 18:21:43
121.   Bluebleeder87
100 -113

let it be known that Gonzalez did not hit his 30/100/100 in 162 games.

2007-10-01 18:22:57
122.   D4P
121
Correct. This is Gonzales's 161st game of the year.
2007-10-01 18:23:37
123.   Bob Timmermann
Let the record reflect that the Padres combo of sand-colored shirts and sand-colored pants look bad.

I assume they had to do that because the Rockies are wearing black shirts.

At least the Rockies aren't wearing purple.

2007-10-01 18:24:14
124.   Humma Kavula
119 The more games he plays in, the better chance he has to rack up hits, and the greater his chances for the Hall of Fame, which I want to happen, because I believe in the destruction of all things good and holy.

So, yes: 166 games for Juan Pierre! Hell, 170 games! Rack 'em up!

2007-10-01 18:24:16
125.   Linkmeister
I just looked up Orsillo, since I'd never heard of him.

What does he know of the National League period, much less the NL West? Is he even aware there's baseball west of NY?

2007-10-01 18:24:44
126.   Eric Stephen
119 I'd be OK with that, as that would mean the Dodgers would at least have a shot at the playoffs, with some weird hybrid tiebreakers for both the wild card and division that we almost had this year.
2007-10-01 18:24:46
127.   D4P
There's no purple in baseball.

At least, there shouldn't be.

2007-10-01 18:24:54
128.   Bluebleeder87
122

D'oh...

2007-10-01 18:26:43
129.   Bob Timmermann
126
There is the odd chance that a team could have three tie games, but changes in the rules have made ties nearly impossible.
2007-10-01 18:26:50
130.   trainwreck
127
Nor steel prints on shoulder pads or puke green uniforms in football.
2007-10-01 18:27:01
131.   MC Safety
115- I kind of did that with Matt Holliday this year.
2007-10-01 18:27:54
132.   Eric Stephen
123 I don't really like any Padre uniforms, especially the camouflage. I suppose the home whites (tops and bottoms) are acceptable though. They should just go back to the brown and mustard.

Orsillo I believe won the Essex County Sean McDonough Sound Alike Contest™.

2007-10-01 18:28:44
133.   MC Safety
115- besides the dollar flier thing.
2007-10-01 18:29:00
134.   Saburo
What's with all the pitching changes this inning? Do both teams still have 40-man rosters for this game?
2007-10-01 18:29:50
135.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
79 Giants vs Dodgers playoff game: Oct 2, 1962, 4 hrs, 18 minutes for a 9-inning playoff game. I remember listening to the game on my transistor radio long after my 5th grade class had been let out for the day. Don't remember how hot it was (I was just a few miles away from Dodger Stadium at the time, in a school near Echo Park) but every day was smoggy back in those days. We used to return from recess coughing.
2007-10-01 18:30:32
136.   Bob Timmermann
The Red Sox did have series against both San Diego and Colorado this year, so at least Orsillo saw some of the players. But San Diego's roster has really turned over since the Red Sox last played them.

Jose Cruz batted leadoff for the Padres in one of the games against the Red Sox. And Russell Branyan was in left.

2007-10-01 18:30:39
137.   Bluebleeder87
132

I'm o.k with the mustard colored ones specially on turn the clock nights, they look pretty cool.

2007-10-01 18:32:02
138.   mehmattski
Ah, apparently we're into the "Pitchers I've never heard of" section of the game. Yes, you can take your East Coast Bias rants out on me.
2007-10-01 18:32:20
139.   El Lay Dave
127 The NY Giants used purple in their uniform some season in the 1910s.

I like the purple used to trim the home whites and road grays. A solid purple jersey is a horrendous idea.

2007-10-01 18:33:27
140.   El Lay Dave
134 It's a regular-season game after Sept. 1, so I'd assume expanded rosters still apply.
2007-10-01 18:33:39
141.   D4P
The purples used by the DBacks and Rockies scream "expansion team"
2007-10-01 18:33:55
142.   El Lay Dave
140 ... until Timmermann tells me I'm wrong.
2007-10-01 18:34:15
143.   D4P
Torrealba Plays the Game the Right Way
2007-10-01 18:34:27
144.   trainwreck
Didn't the scouting reports say that Kouzmanoff was a terrible defender?
2007-10-01 18:34:53
145.   underdog
Head first slide into first... {no comment}
2007-10-01 18:35:49
146.   El Lay Dave
141 When you get to the 29-32 teams in baseball, what colors are left?
2007-10-01 18:35:56
147.   Mattpat11
What was Brady Clark doing there?
2007-10-01 18:36:00
148.   Eric Stephen
I've never heard of Seth Smith until today.
2007-10-01 18:36:10
149.   Bluebleeder87
I wonder if the ChiSox ever wear the horrid shorts during turn the clock nights/days, oh man...

ps check it out [ http://www.mopupduty.com/whitesox1976a.jpg ]

2007-10-01 18:36:27
150.   underdog
Seth Smith... ?
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2007-10-01 18:37:36
151.   Bob Timmermann
The historical LA Times said that 10/2/1962 had temps in the high 70s and low 80s, but the smog was listed as "moderate to heavy."

That must have been awful. Few people realize how much smog has been reduced in the Southern California area.

Denver is just as smoggy as L.A. now.

2007-10-01 18:37:47
152.   D4P
I've never seen Seth Smith hit a triple until today.
2007-10-01 18:37:51
153.   cult of basebaal
149 man, those shorts aren't even as bad as those horrible shirts ... wow

you rock on, seth smith!

2007-10-01 18:38:26
154.   coachjpark
Awful, Brady Clark. Awful.
2007-10-01 18:38:35
155.   mehmattski
Seth Smith (24), Minor League Career:

1768 AB .311/.372/.504

That was his first major league extra base hit.

2007-10-01 18:39:19
156.   Bob Timmermann
Seth Smith finishes his 2007 major league season with a .625 batting average.

This is not Brady Clark's best inning of defense.

2007-10-01 18:39:20
157.   D4P
Maybe those are tough plays, but Brady Clark looks silly out there.
2007-10-01 18:39:22
158.   coachjpark
3 awful plays in a row....
2007-10-01 18:39:28
159.   Mattpat11
Brady Clark is an adventure
2007-10-01 18:39:49
160.   Linkmeister
132 I knew there was somebody Orsillo sounded like.
2007-10-01 18:39:53
161.   trainwreck
Brady Clark = Rockies MVP
2007-10-01 18:39:56
162.   mehmattski
Man do the Pads miss Mike Cameron.
2007-10-01 18:40:01
163.   El Lay Dave
155 2004 2nd round pick of the Rockies, from Ole Miss.
2007-10-01 18:40:02
164.   underdog
Mike Cameron is missed quite a bit today isn't he?
2007-10-01 18:40:18
165.   Bob Timmermann
159
OK, so maybe the Dodgers were better off with Juan Pierre in center.
2007-10-01 18:40:32
166.   underdog
Darnit, I'm just a step too slow today!

Okay, I'm leaving work. Good luck!

2007-10-01 18:41:21
167.   cult of basebaal
damn, not a good night to be brady clark ...
2007-10-01 18:41:50
168.   coachjpark
166 Juan Pierre probably makes either the first or third play, but no way he throws out Seth Smith or catches both balls.
2007-10-01 18:42:25
169.   Bob Timmermann
Seth Smith is the seventh player since 1901 to finish a major league season batting .625.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/Eykz

The last one was Mike Morgan.

2007-10-01 18:42:36
170.   mehmattski
163 According to the radio announcers, Smith was a QB at Ole Miss too. He was Eli Manning's backup.
2007-10-01 18:42:38
171.   cult of basebaal
holy crap, ANOTHER ball to brady clark ... man, now i just feel bad
2007-10-01 18:44:19
172.   Bob Timmermann
Now it's time for LaTroy "Screaming Line Drive" Hawkins.
2007-10-01 18:44:43
173.   trainwreck
LaTroy Hawkins...

Time to be afraid.

2007-10-01 18:45:37
174.   Eric Stephen
I feel bad for not knowing who Seth Smith was. I generally follow prospects, especially fellow NL West clubs. I forget which ignorant announcing crew I ripped for saying of Tony Abreu "whoever that is", but that's how I feel about not knowing Seth Smith.
2007-10-01 18:46:33
175.   RIYank
I wonder if Bernie Williams is watching this game.
2007-10-01 18:46:38
176.   El Lay Dave
172 One of the best nicknames ever.
2007-10-01 18:47:25
177.   Linkmeister
172 You just think I don't get that reference, don't you?

http://tinyurl.com/2tfcy6

2007-10-01 18:48:35
178.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
151 Thanks to the catalytic converter. Unfortunately, it was developed too late to prevent millions of boomers from developing Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease in the next decade. Nonetheless, nothing I breathed in L.A. during the 50s-60s was as bad as what I inhaled in Beijing last year. Hope the Chinese can clean up their act before the 2008 Olympics.

Meanwhile, what a great game!

2007-10-01 18:48:45
179.   D4P
Colored alert for Gonzalez
2007-10-01 18:48:55
180.   Bob Timmermann
According to USA Today, Orsillo and Simspon will head to Philadelphia after this game to broadcast that series which will involve the winner of this game.

Dick Stockton and Ron Darling (a late addition) will do the Arizona-Chicago series.

Ted Robinson and Steve Stone will work the Angels-Red Sox series.

Chip Caray, Bob Brenly, and Tony Gwynn will work the Yankees-Indians series.

2007-10-01 18:49:00
181.   Gen3Blue
Oh Tulowitz! I guess it's decided, I'm a rocks fan in this.
2007-10-01 18:49:36
182.   Bluebleeder87
I forget which ignorant announcing crew I ripped for saying of Tony Abreu "whoever that is"

Somebody that gets paid to know that stuff said that!!?? as a baseball viewer I would have been insulted by that (depending on the mood I was in, of course)

2007-10-01 18:50:15
183.   Bob Timmermann
Yellow alert for Adrian Gonzalez!

He's had three triples this year.

No Padre has ever hit for the cycle.

2007-10-01 18:50:47
184.   Linkmeister
181 Yeah, I concluded that I was rooting for them pretty quickly. I'm not sure whether it's "they took us out of it with those seven games late, so they earned it," or whether it's "I can't root for the Padres."
2007-10-01 18:50:50
185.   D4P
Is Dick Stockton any good with baseball? I generally like him with basketball.
2007-10-01 18:51:37
186.   D4P
"Let the record state that Adrian Gonzalez did not hit for the cycle in 162 games"
2007-10-01 18:53:08
187.   Eric Stephen
182 It was the Rockies announcers, I remember. I can't remember if it was Drew Goodman or George Frazier though.
2007-10-01 18:53:46
188.   Bob Timmermann
The Padres will get the top of the order up in the 9th.

Unless they get a lot of guys on in the 8th. And I've seen the Padres come up with a few late-inning rallies.

The Padres have won 10 games when trailing going to the 8th and 7 when trailing when heading to the 9th.

2007-10-01 18:54:06
189.   trainwreck
185
I don't think I am going to like Stockton doing baseball.
2007-10-01 18:54:33
190.   Bob Timmermann
185
Dick Stockton did a nice call of Fisk's home run in the 1975 World Series, but he hasn't called baseball in a long time.
2007-10-01 18:56:27
191.   Eric Stephen
185 Stockton used to be good (or decent, I guess) at baseball, but I think he's just slow these days.

His call of Fisk's 1975 WS HR was pretty low key -- "If it stays fair...home run."

I'm sure the TBS announcing search was from a combination of talent and availability, mostly the latter.

2007-10-01 18:56:46
192.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
188 If the Rockies get to the 9th with a lead, they are in good shape with Corpas.
2007-10-01 18:57:01
193.   Mattpat11
That looked like a HR
2007-10-01 18:57:03
194.   trainwreck
U-C-L-A
2007-10-01 18:58:12
195.   mehmattski
No carbohydrates were consumed in the ripping of that line drive!
2007-10-01 18:58:23
196.   Eric Stephen
If the ball has to clear the yellow line to be a HR (as opposed to just hitting it), what is the point of making the line yellow?
2007-10-01 18:58:43
197.   Gen3Blue
Looked like it went clean over the yellow to me.
2007-10-01 18:58:49
198.   trainwreck
Clint Hurdle's face is turning purple.
2007-10-01 18:59:22
199.   cult of basebaal
more good work by blue ... and WTF? is up with this announcing team, that was SO CLEARLY a homerun
2007-10-01 18:59:41
200.   Mattpat11
196 I was wondering the same
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2007-10-01 19:00:11
201.   Gen3Blue
Who are these? Padres announcers? That was a homer.
2007-10-01 19:00:16
202.   Eric Stephen
Padres hoping for the lonesome death of Jamey Carroll on the bases.
2007-10-01 19:00:20
203.   Bluebleeder87
187

He was probably jealous cause we have a SICK farm system, although there young'uns aren't to shaby either, I'm still a little annoyed he said that though, not cool, SPECIALLY for a paid professional!

2007-10-01 19:00:27
204.   Raf
Isn't the yellow line padded? Methinks the ball bounced off of something metallic, for it to come back to the field like that.
2007-10-01 19:00:55
205.   mehmattski
Poor Ryan Spilborghs. Make them pay.
2007-10-01 19:01:18
206.   Bob Timmermann
202
Is William Zantzinger coming in to relieve?
2007-10-01 19:01:38
207.   mehmattski
204 Radio announcer said it bounced off of a wheelchair in the first row.
2007-10-01 19:01:53
208.   Bluebleeder87
191

I thought Steve Lyons was going to have playoff games with TBS as well? (that's what I remember somebody saying)

2007-10-01 19:01:54
209.   Eric Stephen
Do BBWAA voters get an extra day to turn in their award votes, or is the deadline generally the day before the playoffs start anyway?

Regardless of his performance today, Peavy should win the CYA anyway. I'm just saying.

2007-10-01 19:02:23
210.   cult of basebaal
204 seemed to bounce off a wheelchair that was parked just behind the fence ...
2007-10-01 19:02:23
211.   El Lay Dave
1-run lead, bottom of the 7th is a little earlier for the PR/def. replacement. If the Pads forge ahead, Carroll (or PH) could be hitting instead of Atkins in the 9th.
2007-10-01 19:03:02
212.   Mattpat11
Michael Barrett in.

Who does he attack?

2007-10-01 19:03:12
213.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
211 I agree. Atkins's bat is too important in a close game.
2007-10-01 19:03:29
214.   Eric Stephen
208 Maybe Lyons is who Darling is replacing. Maybe TBS didn't want the combustible Lyons/Piniella combo that resulted in his national ousting last year!
2007-10-01 19:03:31
215.   Bluebleeder87
Peavy pitched like a mere human today, I dig it.
2007-10-01 19:03:44
216.   mehmattski
209 More relevant is the discussion of the NL MVP with this game- I think he's locked it up, Home/Road splits be damned. Chipper Jones leads in OPS+, Miguel Cabrera in Win Shares, Albert Pujols in Runs Created. But among the playoff teams (clearly what matters to the BBWAA), it's gotta be Holliday or Rollins.
2007-10-01 19:03:55
217.   Mattpat11
215 Peavy pitched like playoff Peavy
2007-10-01 19:04:43
218.   Bob Timmermann
I believe the fence has a yellow pad at the top to provide contrast between it and the seats.

The seats behind it are green and the fence is predominantly green as well.

I think the tipoff that the ball didn't cross the fence was the fact that you could see a woman in a wheelchair making the universal "darn it!" symbol when the ball bounced back.

2007-10-01 19:06:00
219.   Mattpat11
218 She could have been darning that the ball bounced back on to the field.
2007-10-01 19:06:07
220.   Eric Stephen
218 The contrast makes sense. Thanks Bob.
2007-10-01 19:06:16
221.   El Lay Dave
Peavy didn't give up a big inning, but he only pitched one, full, scoreless inning.

They should have hit for him in the 6th.

2007-10-01 19:06:22
222.   Bob Timmermann
Peavy still won the pitcher's Triple Crown and by a fairly wide margin. He should win the Cy Young Award easily.

The MVP vote is going to be very close in the NL.

I assume it will be either Rollins or Holliday.

I remember when David Wright was a candidate. I remember it like it was just two weeks ago.

2007-10-01 19:06:44
223.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
209 I doubt Holliday has it wrapped up. East coast writers will break for Rollins.
2007-10-01 19:07:03
224.   El Lay Dave
219 or that she didn't get the great souvenir.
2007-10-01 19:07:17
225.   Bluebleeder87
come on Torrealba pull the trigger...
2007-10-01 19:08:25
226.   Gen3Blue
Seriously, who do these announcers belong to.
2007-10-01 19:08:50
227.   Eric Stephen
206 Take the rag away from your face, Padre fans. For now ain't the time for your tears.
2007-10-01 19:09:37
228.   trainwreck
I am not going to be able to deal with Dane Cook during these playoffs.
2007-10-01 19:09:46
229.   Bob Timmermann
226
Orsillo - Red Sox
Simpson - Braves
2007-10-01 19:09:49
230.   cult of basebaal
218 i believe that's actually the "i brought my glove to a game and i'm 43 and i have like teh awesome seats and now somebody's hit this homerun right too me and i can't even bother reaching over to the next seat and catching it and now my team is being robbed of a homerun" gesture
2007-10-01 19:10:54
231.   Bob Timmermann
230
Perhaps that's the Colorado dialect.
2007-10-01 19:11:58
232.   Bluebleeder87
230

I missed a couple of innings, the visual sounds priceless!

2007-10-01 19:12:08
233.   Mattpat11
Well, that wasn't a very flattering cross section of Rocky fans
2007-10-01 19:12:19
234.   Eric Stephen
230 Omar Daal approves of your name.
2007-10-01 19:14:54
235.   Bluebleeder87
man, Fuentes can look flat out sick some times, that last pitched was a thing of beauty.
2007-10-01 19:16:16
236.   Eric Stephen
I know it's Coors Field and all, but that situation screamed bunt.

-8th inning
-down one run
-Brady Clark batting

Barrett to follow, with the top of the order coming up after him.

2007-10-01 19:17:12
237.   coachjpark
Looks like Adrian Gonzalez is assured of a shot in the 9th...
2007-10-01 19:18:05
238.   El Lay Dave
237 Unless Blum is CS at third! or some such thing.
2007-10-01 19:18:17
239.   trainwreck
Wow, that was terrible.
2007-10-01 19:18:22
240.   Bluebleeder87
oh my god! come on Holliday!
2007-10-01 19:18:25
241.   xaphor
Well that wasn't very MVPish
2007-10-01 19:18:28
242.   coachjpark
Certainly not a defensive MVP!!!
2007-10-01 19:18:31
243.   Eric Stephen
Wow. There goes the MVP.
2007-10-01 19:18:35
244.   El Lay Dave
236 Not a big fan of that strategy on the road.
2007-10-01 19:18:37
245.   Bob Timmermann
Jimmy Rollins clears off some shelf space after that play.
2007-10-01 19:19:23
246.   El Lay Dave
Who was it that had the irrational hatred of the Giles brothers?
2007-10-01 19:19:35
247.   coachjpark
That's a double???
2007-10-01 19:20:04
248.   Bob Timmermann
I assume that the ball came of Giles's bat with a funny sound. It didn't sound like it would carry as far as it would.
2007-10-01 19:20:28
249.   Bob Timmermann
246
Raises hand.
2007-10-01 19:20:52
250.   Bluebleeder87
246

Vishal hates all things Giles Elder if I remember correctly

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2007-10-01 19:21:23
251.   Eric Stephen
Holiday's Howler© or Matt's Misjudgment®?
2007-10-01 19:21:24
252.   mehmattski
Just to cut off Bob T at the pass:

There has never been a one game playoff that went to extra innings.

2007-10-01 19:21:34
253.   Gen3Blue
Darn-is Holiday one of those "good hitting" outfielders, or am I mistreating him?
2007-10-01 19:22:46
254.   Bluebleeder87
248

not to make excuses for Holliday but it probably also had some tailing action on it also.

2007-10-01 19:24:39
255.   El Lay Dave
I just had visions of the proposal by some pundits of moving Juan Pierre to LF. Blecch.
2007-10-01 19:25:06
256.   El Lay Dave
Now this screams bunt.
2007-10-01 19:25:53
257.   Bob Timmermann
Matsui uses the Denver chop.

The Rockies led the majors in sacrifices this year with 83.

2007-10-01 19:26:29
258.   Bob Timmermann
Orange alert for Tulowitzki!
2007-10-01 19:26:29
259.   mehmattski
Matsui is an excellent Baltimore Chopper. That doesn't show in his OPS. Take that, statheads.
2007-10-01 19:27:04
260.   Eric Stephen
Heath Bell is trying to catch Joe Beimel in pitcher assists.
2007-10-01 19:27:48
261.   mehmattski
257 Thanks, I was wondering about that and I was about to call Thief River Falls.
2007-10-01 19:30:26
262.   RIYank
And what is the explanation for the Rockies' extreme use of that tactic?
2007-10-01 19:30:38
263.   Bob Timmermann
Greg Maddux led the majors in pitcher assists this year.

He had 51. Brandon Webb had 50.

2007-10-01 19:31:08
264.   Bluebleeder87
I've heard Cal Ripken plays mad hoops.
2007-10-01 19:32:14
265.   Bob Timmermann
262
Living on the East Coast, you are spared from excessive exposure to the mysterious managerial machinations of Clint Hurdle.

Clint loves sacrifices.

2007-10-01 19:32:51
266.   El Lay Dave
262 The pitchers had 46 of them. I think that's pretty high.
2007-10-01 19:33:40
267.   Eric Stephen
263 I just looked that up too. Maddux is amazing, leading the majors in assists in only 193 IP.

Heath Bell is now at 17 assists, 5 behind Beimel's 22 (in only 67 IP!).

2007-10-01 19:33:58
268.   Gen3Blue
Oh, those Patriots. Sorry, but I often have to hear about west coast FB, and even BB!!

Wow I never thought Cal R. would start to look like Uncle Fester. Must be a bald thing.

2007-10-01 19:33:59
269.   trainwreck
Damn, that was nice.
2007-10-01 19:34:05
270.   Bob Timmermann
Saul Rivera of Washington led relief pitchers in assists with 26. Joe Beimel was second with 22.
2007-10-01 19:34:47
271.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
How close is Tulowitzki going to make the race for ROY with Braun?
2007-10-01 19:34:48
272.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
How close is Tulowitzki going to make the race for ROY with Braun?
2007-10-01 19:34:51
273.   RIYank
Ah. So, it's maybe 265 some overuse, but 266 also skill?
2007-10-01 19:35:05
274.   trainwreck
Should have kept in Atkins.
2007-10-01 19:35:06
275.   Eric Stephen
It's walk-off time.
2007-10-01 19:35:55
276.   Bob Timmermann
In 2006, Sullivan and Barmes each had 19 sacrifices, tied for second in the NL behind Oswalt.
2007-10-01 19:37:08
277.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
If so, I'd expect it to be Hawpe -- though I seem to remember Helton connecting on one not long ago (gulp).
2007-10-01 19:37:10
278.   Bob Timmermann
273
The Rockies do bunt well. Except for Matsui, who is supposed to be a great bunter because he's Japanese.

They like to destroy stereotypes.

2007-10-01 19:37:10
279.   RIYank
Every time I see Torrealba's name, I think, "Derek Jeter must like him a lot."

Speaking of East Coast perspectives.

2007-10-01 19:37:27
280.   mehmattski
Helton, walk off homer on the third pitch.
2007-10-01 19:37:47
281.   El Lay Dave
276 What else can you do with a guy who put up a .264 OBP that year (Barmes)?
2007-10-01 19:38:14
282.   Bob Timmermann
Wow, Bell is still out there.

Black must have no faith in Brocail or Kevin Cameron.

2007-10-01 19:38:41
283.   Gen3Blue
Bell looks like = Wells.
2007-10-01 19:38:49
284.   El Lay Dave
274 as called in 211
2007-10-01 19:38:58
285.   Bluebleeder87
how many innings did they trot out Bell?

there trying to bust a Eric Gagne surca a few years a go.

2007-10-01 19:38:58
286.   RIYank
280 Nope. Pay up, mehmattski.
2007-10-01 19:39:54
287.   Bob Timmermann
Bell has given up just three homers this year: Griffey, Tracy, and Berkman. All of them in San Diego.
2007-10-01 19:39:57
288.   mehmattski
286 I have sorely underestimated Heath Bell. They should name a candy bar after him or something.
2007-10-01 19:40:25
289.   Bluebleeder87
283

I've always felt he looks more like what Broxton would look like if he were to lose a few.

2007-10-01 19:40:38
290.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
hawpe, hawpe!
2007-10-01 19:41:19
291.   RIYank
288 Hmmmmmm.
Yeah, they could put it in ice cream. Yeah, that would be a good flavor.
Coffee Bell Crunch.
2007-10-01 19:41:39
292.   Hallux Valgus
I have never been to a louder stadium than Coors when the Rox are winning. I have also never been to a quieter stadium every other year. I have been to a lot of stadiums, but spent hundreds of days (nights) at Coors. I'm sad for the Dodgers, but I need the Rox to make it. They were my surrogate team when I spent my formative years in CO. I've been following these kids since the minors. And the Broncos look like wet hot hell.
2007-10-01 19:41:58
293.   Bluebleeder87
Holliday looks like RoboCop™ with out a hat on.
2007-10-01 19:42:06
294.   Bob Timmermann
The Padres would have to bat for Bell if this goes to extra innings.

Wouldn't they?

2007-10-01 19:42:15
295.   Daniel Zappala
First time seeing the Padres on TV this year, and boy those uniforms are ugly. Definitely rooting for the Rockies of all the NL teams at this point. They're geographically closer, and the Padres get no points for being nicknamed the Friars, even if I was a Friar in high school. I've just always disliked the Padres.
2007-10-01 19:42:24
296.   El Lay Dave
IBB to force Corpas out of the game? Strange idea, I know.....
2007-10-01 19:43:32
297.   Daniel Zappala
What's the comment record for Bad Altitude?
2007-10-01 19:43:53
298.   Hallux Valgus
297 I'd guess it's around 40.
2007-10-01 19:44:07
299.   mehmattski
Koshansky needs to do his best Seth Smith impression.
2007-10-01 19:44:34
300.   Bluebleeder87
297

I think we nuked the record, Daniel.

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2007-10-01 19:44:36
301.   Eric Stephen
No shansky to catch up to that heat.
2007-10-01 19:45:01
302.   RIYank
Huh.
Yeah, I still have trouble with this NL pinch hitting for the pitcher thing. Confusing.
2007-10-01 19:45:06
303.   Bob Timmermann
While Seth Smith's .625 BA is rare, Joe Koshansky's .083 BA is not.
2007-10-01 19:45:27
304.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
Clint Hurdle's lifting Atkins for a pr in the 7th really takes the heart out of the middle of that lineup.
2007-10-01 19:45:53
305.   Bob Timmermann
Whose turn now for the Rockies on the mound?

Jorge Julio?

2007-10-01 19:46:28
306.   Hallux Valgus
If it's up to DHL, Kenny Lofton will never see his stuff. Sorry, Kenny.
2007-10-01 19:46:35
307.   RIYank
So, is this now officially the longest season ever??? I mean, now that we're at 162 games plus ten innings?
2007-10-01 19:46:40
308.   El Lay Dave
Hurdle has burned through a lot of players in nine innings. Black has not.
2007-10-01 19:46:44
309.   Bluebleeder87
you gotta give props to Josh Bell he trully looked unhittable in his outing.
2007-10-01 19:47:14
310.   Bob Timmermann
It's a battle of former Dodgers, who are not quite beloved.
2007-10-01 19:47:29
311.   Eric Stephen
307 1962 went to 165 games (3 gm playoff between LA and SF).
2007-10-01 19:47:36
312.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
307 Before divisions, playoffs were best out of 3. In 1962, the Dodgers and Giants played 165 games.
2007-10-01 19:47:42
313.   Bob Timmermann
307
The 1962 season went 165 games.
2007-10-01 19:47:50
314.   trainwreck
It would be appropriate if Clint Hurdle's dumb moves cost the Rockies.
2007-10-01 19:48:09
315.   Shaun P
305 Time to go to a starter? The Rockies' good 'pen pitchers are almost gone. If they don't win it soon . . .

308 That might be the difference in the game.

2007-10-01 19:48:45
316.   Bob Timmermann
307
Dodger fans reflexively react to the year 1962 even if we weren't born then.
2007-10-01 19:48:51
317.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
nice catch! /sarcasm
2007-10-01 19:49:11
318.   RIYank
Oh yeah, 1962, I totally forgot.
2007-10-01 19:49:23
319.   Bluebleeder87
you gotta wonder what Holliday is thinking out there in LF knowing he's the reason there playing extra innings, wow.
2007-10-01 19:49:35
320.   coachjpark
310 Herges was my favorite Dodger in 2000....
2007-10-01 19:49:37
321.   Bob Timmermann
Is Black going to use Hoffman in a tie game on the road? He tends not to.
2007-10-01 19:49:57
322.   Hallux Valgus
from what I understand, there was this year called 1962... not sure where I heard about it.
2007-10-01 19:50:20
323.   mehmattski
Terrmel Sledge is still playing baseball? Why?
2007-10-01 19:50:33
324.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
316 October 1963 made life worth living again (at least in baseball, and before November 22).
2007-10-01 19:50:35
325.   Bluebleeder87
Bob, why did they play 3 extra games that year?
2007-10-01 19:50:40
326.   Hallux Valgus
319 He's also a big reason they made it