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Rockies-Phillies Game 1 Chat
2007-10-03 11:45
by Ken Arneson

Starting Lineups:

K. Matsui 2b
T. Tulowitzki ss
M. Holliday lf
T. Helton 1b
G. Atkins 3b
B. Hawpe rf
R. Spilborghs cf
Y. Torrealba c
J. Francis p

J. Rollins ss
S. Victorino rf
C. Utley 2b
R. Howard 1b
A. Rowand cf
P. Burrell lf
W. Helms 3b
C. Ruiz c
C. Hamels p

Comments (207)
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2007-10-03 11:54:51
1.   Ken Arneson
Or, you can discuss Liverpool-Marseille instead, if you wish.
2007-10-03 11:55:24
2.   ToyCannon
Just shocked that the lefty killer Werth is not playing against Francis.
2007-10-03 12:03:36
3.   D4P
Must be nice to have a lineup where Pat Burrell bats 6th.
2007-10-03 12:08:19
4.   D4P
That big Chevrolet symbol behind homeplate is annoying.
2007-10-03 12:13:09
5.   trainwreck
Those towels are annoying.

What is this Pittsburg?

2007-10-03 12:13:22
6.   Bluebleeder87
watching the game, it's all elbows & knee caps with Hamels, seriously.
2007-10-03 12:13:48
7.   trainwreck
2007-10-03 12:15:36
8.   Bluebleeder87
Hurdle better have a quick huck regarding Francis, I hear the Phillies man handle him BIG TIME.
2007-10-03 12:15:58
9.   still bevens
None of the links to gameday or audio is working on How am I supposed to effectively waste time at work?
2007-10-03 12:16:27
10.   D4P
Has an MVP ever led the league in outs...?
2007-10-03 12:17:28
11.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Hey, everybody. Let's bust 700, shall we?
2007-10-03 12:18:08
12.   Agronox
my audio is working

Wish I could watch this on TV but 3:00 is just too early.

2007-10-03 12:18:10
13.   D4P
Apparently, Hurdle said that he's most concerned about the Phillies' speed. Hmm.
2007-10-03 12:18:52
14.   MC Safety
1- How about Arsenal-Bucharest?
2007-10-03 12:19:34
15.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Oh my goodness, the TBS guys are going to use every cliche the Rockies guys have been repeating for the last three weeks as if they just thought them up in their production meeting yesterday.
2007-10-03 12:20:37
16.   Ken Arneson
OK, somebody tell TBS that having both the pitcher and the batter in front of a green screen is extremely annoying.
2007-10-03 12:20:55
17.   MC Safety
1- I wonder if Gerrard will be fit after breaking that poor kid's leg?
2007-10-03 12:21:17
18.   Agronox
Sheesh, that's not exactly a good start for the Phils.
2007-10-03 12:22:33
19.   caseybarker
5 , 7


2007-10-03 12:22:48
20.   standuptriple
duelling no-hitters!
2007-10-03 12:23:04
21.   Bob Timmermann
Frank McCormick did so in 1940.

2007-10-03 12:23:45
22.   Bluebleeder87
Nice triple by Helton about 4 more feet & the ball goes out of the yard.
2007-10-03 12:23:50
23.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Sure, why not? He does all that time.
2007-10-03 12:24:11
24.   standuptriple
Yes! Reverse jinx works again.
2007-10-03 12:24:12
25.   MC Safety
Helton is playing like its 2001 again.
2007-10-03 12:25:36
26.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Very, very nice.
2007-10-03 12:25:37
27.   MC Safety
Atkins smoked that.
2007-10-03 12:25:59
28.   trainwreck
Time to pull Atkins for a defensive replacement.
2007-10-03 12:26:01
29.   Bluebleeder87
It's pretty weird cause I thought I was gonna end up rooting for the Phills but the Rox (to me) seem like a more compelling story, plus they play great D so that's bonus points in my book.
2007-10-03 12:27:02
30.   MC Safety
What an ugly 0-1 swing from Hawpe. geez.
2007-10-03 12:27:03
31.   underdog
Stupid MLBTV playoff blackout... grumble... Why is this game blacked out but Monday's wasn't?
2007-10-03 12:27:05
32.   Mark T.R. Donohue
It is worth mentioning that my immediate superior at the job I am nominally performing right now is a big Phillies fan.
2007-10-03 12:27:15
33.   standuptriple
Winner of this series has to go to the WS, right?
2007-10-03 12:27:16
34.   MC Safety
What an ugly 0-1 swing from Hawpe. geez.
2007-10-03 12:27:16
35.   standuptriple
Winner of this series has to go to the WS, right?
2007-10-03 12:27:56
36.   underdog
The Rockies have had a lot of Hurdle(s) to overcome this season.
2007-10-03 12:28:26
37.   MC Safety
30,34- I am making my contributions to 700 posts.
2007-10-03 12:28:48
38.   Mark T.R. Donohue
33 It's got to be a mortal lock -- the Cubs are the Cubs and Arizona has that loony run differential that just screams "fluke."
2007-10-03 12:29:58
39.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Boy, as far as "less paranoid, sweaty-looking lefty" goes, Francis is way ahead of Hamels.
2007-10-03 12:30:10
40.   Bluebleeder87
ToyCannon pointed out he was surprised Jason Werth wasn't in the lineup today (Lefty killer) I can't help but think, is he hurt or what?
2007-10-03 12:30:38
41.   Mark T.R. Donohue
2007-10-03 12:32:59
42.   Bluebleeder87
Francis is also elbows & knee caps/tall drink of water as well... we got 2 of them today, & there both lefties!
2007-10-03 12:34:49
43.   Bob Timmermann
But Jeff Francis is Canadian!
2007-10-03 12:35:30
44.   trainwreck
That is why he is cold as ice.
2007-10-03 12:35:52
45.   Bob Timmermann
I think Manuel started Victorino because he felt that he had "the hot hand" and was playing in the games down the stretch when the Phillies clinched.

Or else he just made a mistake.

I'm guessing.

2007-10-03 12:36:08
46.   Bluebleeder87
The Rox are doing everything right in the 1st couple of innings there also keeping the fans quite which is a pretty big deal if your a visiting team, one would think.
2007-10-03 12:36:10
47.   standuptriple
What's CH's pitch count up to already?
2007-10-03 12:36:26
48.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Wow, just now as the Rockies were rallying, FedEx showed up with my World Series tickets.

That is a Sign. That is a capital-"S" sign, no doubt.

2007-10-03 12:36:43
49.   Bob Timmermann
45 pitches
2007-10-03 12:37:33
50.   Bluebleeder87

there both ex-Dodgers too, that's pretty weird.

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2007-10-03 12:38:39
51.   Bluebleeder87
I wonder what XeiFranks machine says about this game (the odds)
2007-10-03 12:39:09
52.   KG16
Anyone else get the feeling we're going to see a series full of football scores?
2007-10-03 12:39:54
53.   dianagramr

Its the '93 World Series all over again ...

2007-10-03 12:40:09
54.   Agronox
How does the strike zone look, to those of you watching on tv?
2007-10-03 12:44:04
55.   Bluebleeder87

It looks normal, the ump is being pretty consistent, SO FAR.

2007-10-03 12:44:08
56.   D4P
Strike zone looks good. Couple close pitches called balls, that looked either a bit inside or a bit low.
2007-10-03 12:47:28
57.   standuptriple
Are the Phils going to be able to keep Rowand after this season?
2007-10-03 12:47:35
58.   Bluebleeder87
Francis is on, he's mainly striking them out on curves (the hitters will adjust from at bat to at bat) I'm hoping Francis mixes his pitchs a little more as the innings progress.
2007-10-03 12:48:46
59.   Bob Timmermann
Is Darren Holmes waiting by the TV anxiously to see if someone will join him in his unique version of the Mile High Club?
2007-10-03 12:53:32
60.   Bluebleeder87
Francis is pitching backwards:

Curve, curve, fastball


Curve, fastball, Curve. He's yet to throw a 1st pitch fastball from what I've seen, I could be wrong.

2007-10-03 12:53:34
61.   mehmattski
Sup everyone. As a participant in the mammoth one-game playoff thread, I am now morally obligated to root for the Rockies the rest of the way (unless they play the Yankees).

Francis looks awesome so far.

2007-10-03 12:58:13
62.   trainwreck
Nice UCLA pub right there.
2007-10-03 12:59:22
63.   KG16
62 - yeah, but the best player on the field came from Long Beach State.
2007-10-03 13:04:31
64.   Bluebleeder87
Francis is pitching like a stud, 5 K's in 3 innings.
2007-10-03 13:11:07
65.   Mark T.R. Donohue
If the division seriess is Arizona-Colorado, I suspect Fox may just order the dissolution of the National League and run America's Funniest Groin Surgeries instead.
2007-10-03 13:11:33
66.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Championship series. Dang it, I am giddy.
2007-10-03 13:15:32
67.   Eric Stephen
65 Mark, get your networks right! :)

ABC would have "America's Funniest Groin Surgeries" (with an occasional nod to ABC Family), while Fox would have "When Groin Surgeries Attack!"

2007-10-03 13:15:39
68.   mehmattski
65 And if the ALCS were Indians-Angels...
2007-10-03 13:16:11
69.   Shaun P
66 You should be.

I don't know how it looks on TV, but on Gameday, there have been some awful "Called Strikes" - including the second pitch to Victorino, which Gameday has over the righty batter's box. Shocking, I know.

2007-10-03 13:19:05
70.   trainwreck
Francis picked a good day to possibly have his best start ever.
2007-10-03 13:21:10
71.   Eric Stephen
Perhaps this postseason is where Francis moves into Beckett territory in terms of bursting on the scene nationally.
2007-10-03 13:22:21
72.   Mark T.R. Donohue
70 That's a revealing comment. Jeff Francis has had plenty of no-doubter #1 shutdown stopper-type starts in his career; his pitching fantastic is hardly a surprise. The thing separating Francis from true ace status is that when he doesn't have his best stuff he can completely lose it sometimes (see his last start in Philly, for example.) When he's on his command, it's no surprise that no one can hit him.
2007-10-03 13:22:25
73.   underdog
You'd think the Phillies were the team who played a long extra inning game on Monday.
2007-10-03 13:25:26
74.   underdog
Hamels has settled down now. We'll see if that means anything.
2007-10-03 13:26:01
75.   underdog
Walt Jocketty's ouster from St. Louis has already been Griddle'd!
2007-10-03 13:28:39
76.   Bluebleeder87

That's the way some people see it, but I really feel the Rox have the competitive edge BECAUSE THERE SHARPER right now then the Phills. People don't realize how much your timing goes off when you get 2 days off specially for major leaguers WHO PLAY NEARLY EVERYDAY.

2007-10-03 13:28:45
77.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Yikes, don't let them back into it here.
2007-10-03 13:29:34
78.   Eric Stephen
I'm listening via MLB audio, and I really enjoy Harry Kalas. I don't listen to him nearly enough.
2007-10-03 13:29:43
79.   trainwreck
I wonder if Phillies fans still wish death upon Pat Burrell.
2007-10-03 13:30:10
80.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Boy, that was a freaking pop-up. How come people write the Rockies' entire offense for playing at Coors but the Phillies get a free pass for playing in a freaking pachinko parlor?
2007-10-03 13:30:10
81.   Bluebleeder87
oh, uh, the Phillies are back in it, hopefully Francis tweeks his pitch selection.
2007-10-03 13:31:10
82.   Shaun P
79 Imagine if the Phils had listened to public opinion and traded Burrell last offseason.

Mark, what were you saying about Francis losing his command?

2007-10-03 13:32:05
83.   Mark T.R. Donohue
I don't think he lost his command -- the pitch to Burrell was exactly where he wanted it. It's not his fault it's 310 feet to the wall in the left-field power alley in Philadelphia.
2007-10-03 13:33:08
84.   mehmattski
Pastadiving Tulowitzki ;-)
2007-10-03 13:33:41
85.   underdog
Uh oh... this must be one of those completely-lose-it innings.
2007-10-03 13:33:42
86.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Wow, that was exactly what the doctor ordered. Nice execution, Cole.
2007-10-03 13:34:09
87.   dianagramr
heh ..... well, Tulo did grow up idolizing Jeter :-)
2007-10-03 13:34:29
88.   Eric Stephen
80 Coors Field still has the COORS FIELD stigma, humidor or not, even though Citizens Bank has a higher park factor this season (108 to 107). Plus, Philly did score something like 60 runs more than Colorado on the road this season, but I doubt any mainstream media pays attention to that.
2007-10-03 13:34:53
89.   standuptriple
I expect nothing less than 3 visits by Morgana the Kissing Bandit and the astonishing return of Jim Brown.
2007-10-03 13:35:22
90.   dianagramr
by the way, compare Tulo's age 22 season (this year) vs. Jeter's (1996) .... even taking into account park effects, Tulo seems to have better power, but doesn't (didn't) run as much
2007-10-03 13:35:45
91.   trainwreck
I am pretty sure Howard is not a threat to run.
2007-10-03 13:35:48
92.   das411
Chooch with the wheels!!
2007-10-03 13:36:19
93.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Also, Jeter has worked years like a dog to become a so-so defensive shortstop while Tulowitzki is already one of the best in the game.
2007-10-03 13:37:14
94.   bhsportsguy
72 That's true Mark, I never liked seeing Jeff Francis on the mound against the Dodgers, each of the Dodgers main competitors have at least one guy who gives them trouble, Webb, Peavy and Francis.

I liked how Chad pitched against the Padres, I hope he will become the Padre's nemesis.

2007-10-03 13:37:41
95.   standuptriple
93 Wow. A pot-shot at Jeter from LF. Let Tulo do it for a couple years before you start slobbing his witzki.
2007-10-03 13:37:48
96.   D4P
But will Tulowitzki ever be a True Yankee...?
2007-10-03 13:38:19
97.   trainwreck
But he dove into the stands and hurt his pretty face.
2007-10-03 13:38:42
98.   underdog
Can you say witzki on a family blog?
2007-10-03 13:39:05
99.   Mark T.R. Donohue
I am ecstatic to escape that inning with the lead.
2007-10-03 13:40:49
100.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Listen: Tulowitzki is better defensively than Jeter. By a lot. By a WHOLE lot. This is objective fact. It's not a pot shot, it's not me saying Jeter isn't the clutchiest clutcher who ever clutched a clutch, it's not me saying he's a waste of money. Troy Tulowitzki is a better defensive shortstop. Period. If you think there is a debate on this, you're dumb.
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2007-10-03 13:41:07
101.   standuptriple
I seem to recall a C. Barmes who was supposed to be "the next great SS". What ever happened to that guy?
2007-10-03 13:41:56
102.   Bluebleeder87
hopefully the Rox score a run here or something.
2007-10-03 13:42:59
103.   Bluebleeder87
I agree with Mr. Donohue.
2007-10-03 13:43:10
104.   bhsportsguy
100 He has the Vin seal of approval, that's enough for me.
2007-10-03 13:43:16
105.   standuptriple
Young SS are usually better than aging SS. Yes, Tulo is better defensively. I never said he wasn't. Lighten up (jeff) Francis.
2007-10-03 13:43:34
106.   underdog
I don't think anyone would disagree with you on that point, Mark, and I love Jeter, but i think the point is he's a rookie and maybe he'll have a lobotomy in a couple of years, or hurt something, or lose it in some way. But right now, no question - he certainly has greater range.
2007-10-03 13:46:18
107.   ToyCannon
Way to insult your guess posters for displaying a difference of opinion.
2007-10-03 13:46:57
108.   das411
39 - You were saying?

57 - Depends on how much $$ the Chitown teams throw at him, but the Flyin' Hawaiian may not be a bad replacement...

79 - Nope! One more year like this would be just fine, thank you!

2007-10-03 13:47:43
109.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Let's not fight about the Yankees. I'm already cranky about the vast majority of baseball "experts" picking the Phillies to win this series for no reason other than picking the Rockies would require them to do a whole bunch of extra work actually learning the names of the people on the Colorado team.
2007-10-03 13:48:11
110.   Woden325
101 I remember Mark "TR" Donohue's original Rockies blog was "The Good, The Bad, and The Barmes."

Clint played pretty well for the Sky Sox, but he's not going to the big club as long as Tulo's around.

2007-10-03 13:49:24
111.   trainwreck
Utley is getting pwned.
2007-10-03 13:50:12
112.   Mark T.R. Donohue
I love Clint Barmes -- I'm amazed the Rockies haven't traded him to someone like the Pirates for a pitching prospect by now. He could play for a lot of NL teams. But yeah, he's not THAT good, which was kind of the joke... now the Rockies have players good enough to make Barmesmania look as silly as it initially did to non-Coloradans in 2005.
2007-10-03 13:51:36
113.   Bluebleeder87
100 ,104

Serious, the times I've seen him he looks pretty slick PERIOD.

2007-10-03 13:52:55
114.   Mark T.R. Donohue
That was a real good inning.
2007-10-03 13:53:28
115.   standuptriple
110 Just keep Tulo away from the venison then. That was the gist of what I was saying. FWIW, I like Tulo and was glad he flew under the radar this year. He has the makings of being a fine ballplayer.
2007-10-03 13:54:47
116.   Woden325
115 Amen.
2007-10-03 13:54:49
117.   trainwreck
I hate you Dane Cook!
2007-10-03 13:56:12
118.   Woden325
Gameday seems a bit slow.
2007-10-03 13:59:57
119.   Bluebleeder87
my only pet peeve with Tulowzki is his throwing motion (looking long term he could get hurt) a coach or just a simple observer wouldn't recommend it to any little leaguer.
2007-10-03 14:00:28
120.   mehmattski
112 The Rockies could have gotten Kyle Farnsworth for Barmes and Franklin Morales! Why didn't they pull the trigger?!?!? Oh yeah, thats right...
2007-10-03 14:00:30
121.   MC Safety
115,116- That 2006 line is just horrible. You have to feel for the guy. Yikes!
2007-10-03 14:00:51
122.   Shaun P
Hamels at 115 pitches; how long does Manuel let him go?
2007-10-03 14:01:36
123.   mehmattski
122 I bet it will be in the very near future...
2007-10-03 14:05:35
124.   Woden325
2hrs to the stretch -- pretty quick pace.
2007-10-03 14:07:40
125.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Hooray for really young throwback pitchers who work fast and throw strikes!
2007-10-03 14:10:34
126.   das411
Quality starts for both SP's, now it will start to get fun...
2007-10-03 14:11:16
127.   Woden325
8 K's 4 H 2 ER 2BB.

Much better than his last start at philly.

2007-10-03 14:13:46
128.   Woden325
I'm luxuriating in a tomahawk-chop-free post-season.
2007-10-03 14:14:48
129.   standuptriple
128 What about CLE? Couldn't they pull that off?
2007-10-03 14:16:57
130.   Ken Arneson
125 Although that's not very conducive towards getting 700 comments.
2007-10-03 14:17:41
131.   Woden325
9 pitch AB for Dobbs. I grudgingly admire that.
2007-10-03 14:18:53
132.   mehmattski
What the hell was that graphic on the field?
2007-10-03 14:19:29
133.   Blue in SF
I'm following on Gameday. Can someone explain why Hurdle let Francis hit in the top of the 7th with a man on when Francis doesn't pitch the bottom?
2007-10-03 14:20:20
134.   Woden325
133 That's Clint being Clint.
2007-10-03 14:20:46
135.   dianagramr

Hurdle is a strange duck ...

2007-10-03 14:20:56
136.   Shaun P
133 Far be it from me, a Yankees fan, to harp on another team's manager's lack of in-game tactical ability -

but I believe "Clint Hurdle sucks tactically" answers your question.

2007-10-03 14:23:43
137.   Blue in SF
134 WOW! I assumed Francis got hurt during his at bat.

I didn't think that type of mistake made it to the major leagues...obviously I haven't been following the Rockies....just inexplicable....

2007-10-03 14:24:09
138.   mehmattski
136 Good thing he's paired up with Charlie "I need a Friggin" Manuel (TM: Mike's Baseball Rants).

Also, seriously, there's an on-field graphic showing the lead of a runner at first? Who thought that up?

2007-10-03 14:24:54
139.   Woden325
Thank you for the insurance, Matt!
2007-10-03 14:25:32
140.   dianagramr
Francis 2007 batting line: .188/.212/.234
2007-10-03 14:25:51
141.   Shaun P
Tom Gordon strikes again!

Gordon-Myers vs Fuentes-Corpas. How could anyone ever take Gordon-Myers?

2007-10-03 14:26:11
142.   Woden325
140 He's had a couple of fluke/clutch doubles though.
2007-10-03 14:26:49
143.   underdog
Yeah, is this series officially a battle of who has enough talent to overcome each manager's mental deficiencies?
2007-10-03 14:27:23
144.   Woden325
143 the rockies may well be doomed, if that's the case.
2007-10-03 14:27:50
145.   sporky
143 - I guess it's a good thing that Grady is out of contention.
2007-10-03 14:28:29
146.   underdog
144 - The Phillies have Charlie Manuel at the helm, though, so I think it's pretty even. So far their talent is overcoming at a higher level!
2007-10-03 14:28:31
147.   dianagramr
well, at least the rockies left jorge julio off the div series roster ...
2007-10-03 14:28:39
148.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Yeah, I don't know if people know this or not, but... Clint Hurdle has no idea what he's doing. He didn't manage in the minor leagues very long and he figured out fairly quickly that in Colorado so long as he was cheerful to the owners and D O'D he was never going to get fired for being incompetent. His in-game moves have been dictated by pure whimsy for as long as I've been watching Rockies baseball.
2007-10-03 14:31:41
149.   dianagramr

oh my .... then we could be in for a real 3-ring circus ....

Is his nickname Clint "my mind can't get over that" Hurdle or something Manuel-esque like that?

2007-10-03 14:31:43
150.   underdog
148 Yup, I have that written down somewhere. Clint Hurdle, Incompetent. Check! Luckily the Rockies have a lot of good hitters and character to overcome those Hurdle(s), and he stays out of the way of things when he can. When he retires he can be an extra in a Scorsese movie.
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2007-10-03 14:32:07
151.   Kevin Lewis
You kind of knew Matt was going to hit one out eventually this game. Seriously, why even pitch to the guy...I know, no one was on, but only throw change ups
2007-10-03 14:32:47
152.   standuptriple
148 I'm numb from having to watch Dusty Baker and Felipe pull the trigger. It's pretty amazing that there are so few tactical dugout generals out there anymore.
2007-10-03 14:33:18
153.   Mark T.R. Donohue
And the worst part is, after Hurdle has already worked some five years longer in the job than he's had any right to, this late-season run has probably guaranteed that we will have to watch him in Denver for another three or four years.
2007-10-03 14:34:20
154.   Mark Linsey
Everyone who was predicting this to be a super-high scoring series has really been overlooking the Rockies' pitching. Their team ERA since the all-star break is 3.86, first in the NL and second in MLB behind Cleveland and Toronto.

2007-10-03 14:34:47
155.   Bob Timmermann
Don't call Tony La Russa a "genius." It gets him angry.
2007-10-03 14:35:17
156.   Shaun P
153 What happens if the Rockies win it all?

What is Fuentes doing?

2007-10-03 14:37:39
157.   RIYank
Shaun, I see you're playing both sides of the Toaster this afternoon.
2007-10-03 14:38:38
158.   Shaun P
157 Still more than 24 hours to go until 6:30 PM tomorrow, RI. Gotta get my fix somehow. =)
2007-10-03 14:39:01
159.   mehmattski
157 Me too, but I've already made the mistake of publishing a comment in the wrong place. Oh well, such is life.
2007-10-03 14:39:43
160.   RIYank
I'm stuck with Gameday for this game. It kind of sucks. I like Gameday plus something else, even if it's just radio.
2007-10-03 14:39:58
161.   standuptriple
155 I've actually spoken to Tony. He's pretty nice guy. We chatted about Mike Crudale (former neighbor of mine) the Xmas of '04.
2007-10-03 14:40:47
162.   standuptriple
153 , 156 He gets the "Ozzie Guillen contract extension."
2007-10-03 14:41:00
163.   RIYank
So, is there any team whose fan base thinks the manager is really good?
2007-10-03 14:42:02
164.   standuptriple
Cubs? D-Backs?
2007-10-03 14:42:44
165.   ToyCannon
So the guy with the 591 slug% against LHP continues to sit while down 2 runs and a LHP on the mound with a runner on base. Nothing against Shane but come on.
2007-10-03 14:42:45
166.   Shaun P
163 I don't know if I've ever heard a Braves fan complain about Bobby Cox. OTOH, I don't know many Braves fans.

Utley is not having a good day. 4 Ks in 4 ABs, ouch.

2007-10-03 14:42:48
167.   Mark Linsey
People say great things about Bob Melvin, particularly his bullpen management, but I don't actually know any D'Backs fans nor do I frequent any D'backs blogs, so I don't know if the general fan base has the same consensus.
2007-10-03 14:43:05
168.   Kels
Great day for Utley, 4 k's on 13 pitches
2007-10-03 14:43:06
169.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Wow, I have been saying for ages Brian Fuentes was going to be a money eight-inning guy for some playoff team one day... I never suspected it would be the Rockies.
2007-10-03 14:43:21
170.   Woden325
Fuentes settled down nicely.
2007-10-03 14:43:35
171.   Bob Timmermann
Last year, Jim Leyland was a god in Detroit.

This year, he was not.

They don't make gods like they used to.

Most Angel fans like Mike Scioscia a lot. If managers were polled like politicians, I think Angel fans would give Scioscia a lot of high ratings and very few negatives.

2007-10-03 14:43:40
172.   RIYank
164 I bet not.

Wait, something's wrong. Fuentes has contravened a baseball law of nature.

2007-10-03 14:43:49
173.   Shaun P
ToyCannon, see 138 . Says it all.
2007-10-03 14:45:40
174.   bhsportsguy
If you are a Rockies or Phillies fan and are stuck listening to regular radio today, you might be a little upset that at 2:30 P.M. PDT, KSPN 710 left the playoff game to begin their pregame show for the Angels/Red Sox game.
2007-10-03 14:46:05
175.   Shaun P
171 Do Dodger fans curse the Angels for having Scioscia, instead of the Dodgers having him?

I also can't recall any complaints of Bud Black, but again, I don't know many Padres fans.

2007-10-03 14:46:21
176.   RIYank
171 Scioscia was going to be my bet.
2007-10-03 14:47:31
177.   Mark T.R. Donohue
In the NL West, I think Black and Melvin are both very solid when it comes to maximizing what they get out of their relievers.
2007-10-03 14:49:15
178.   Bob Timmermann
The vast majority of Dodger fans think it's very sad that Scioscia manages the Angels and got the bum's rush from Kevin Malone.

There are diehards at Dodger Thoughts who think Scioscia has an Angels team that spends much of its time running into outs.

Mostly, Dodger fans regret the team not signing Vladimir Guerrero.

2007-10-03 14:51:08
179.   Shaun P
178 Thanks, Bob. Even as much as we adore Abreu (and did Sheff too, for a time), there are many of us Yankee fans who regret the Yanks not signing Vlad.
2007-10-03 14:51:41
180.   mehmattski
Brett Myers is getting smacked around in public.

..too soon?

2007-10-03 14:52:29
181.   das411
THERE's that curveball!

MTRD, enjoy this game because I have a feeling Utley will not be picking up any more Golden Sombreros in this series..

2007-10-03 14:53:02
182.   Humma Kavula
180 If that joke is making fun of Brett Myers: it's never too soon to humiliate a man who beats women.

If that joke is making fun of Brett Myers's victim: yes, and always, too soon.

2007-10-03 14:53:05
183.   Bob Timmermann
Everybody likes Gary Sheffield...

For a while ...

2007-10-03 14:54:43
184.   mehmattski
182 That would be choice A.
2007-10-03 14:54:48
185.   Humma Kavula
183 I smell a sitcom! "Everybody Tolerates Gary (Until They Don't)."
2007-10-03 14:54:56
186.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Maybe just for a change of pace here we could get an easy ninth?
2007-10-03 14:56:02
187.   standuptriple
185 or (Until you do something that displeases him, like picking up his option, and he calls you a racist)
2007-10-03 14:56:04
188.   Shaun P
183 He can't burn his bridges in Detroit, can he? Where else could he go? Who else would take him?

Man, by Gameday, Dale Scott is horrible, and has only gotten worse as the game went on. The umpiring needs to be fixed.

2007-10-03 14:56:16
189.   RIYank
Holy cow.
Corpas just made a great hitter look like a pig.
2007-10-03 14:56:59
190.   Mark T.R. Donohue
181 I dunno. Franklin Morales is a lefty starter who's fairly tough on those of his own orientation and Brian Fuentes simply OWNS Utley.
2007-10-03 14:57:01
191.   underdog
Ryan Howard was useless today. I bet the Phils come back strong tomorrow. If they don't, they're doomed.

And what Bob said in 178 . I would've liked Scioscia as manager but definitely don't think he's perfect. Most managers are only as smart as the talent they have around them.

2007-10-03 14:57:28
192.   Bob Timmermann
I think Sheffield didn't tick off too many people in Detroit. Most of his tirades there were against the Yankees and Joe Torre.

However, a lot of people there think he should be traded so the Tigers can pick up... something.

2007-10-03 14:58:55
193.   standuptriple
when you get 0-17 from your top 4 bats it's hard to win.
2007-10-03 14:59:09
194.   standuptriple
sorry, 0-15
2007-10-03 15:00:53
195.   underdog
{cue Bee Gee's song "staying Alive" as Burrell's theme music}}
2007-10-03 15:01:05
196.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Wow. Wow. Wow.

That was WAY too easy.

2007-10-03 15:01:21
197.   RIYank
186 Your wish is granted. Now don't ever complain about anything again.
2007-10-03 15:01:41
198.   underdog
Or not.
2007-10-03 15:02:40
199.   standuptriple
so much for 700. great game.
2007-10-03 15:02:42
200.   Humma Kavula
Congrats, Rocks! One down, ten to go.

OK, over to the Red Sox/Angels thread!

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2007-10-03 15:03:05
201.   Bob Timmermann
So one down, ten to go for the Rockies!

Now it's off to Cardboard Gods for the Angels-Red Sox chat.

2007-10-03 15:03:34
202.   RIYank
Cool, see some of you over at Cardboard Gods?
2007-10-03 15:07:55
203.   D4P
1 down, 10 to go for Colorado!

At this juncture, it would seem prudent to relocate to the blog hosting the Los Angeles of Anaheim-Boston game chat.

2007-10-03 15:11:11
204.   das411
Congrats Mark.

(did anyone else think that strike zone got a LOT bigger in the 9th than it was in, say, the top of the 2nd?)

2007-10-03 15:14:59
205.   underdog
{in Homer Simpson voice} One down, ten to...


2007-10-03 15:30:41
206.   WillieD
Good to see the Rockies do it. What's gotten into the Rockies?
2007-10-03 15:41:58
207.   Xeifrank
51. 50.45% for the Phils. Vegas was 58.33% for the Phils.
vr, Xei

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